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Why establish a CODE OF CONDUCT for our fandom? 
24th-Nov-2012 02:02 pm - [sticky post]
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As most of you probably know by now, some bad fandom sh** has gone down around Tom Hiddleston lately.

(If you already know about this, just skip the bullet points)
  • Somebody created a fake Thor2themovie account on twitter and conned fans into believing that Loki pics from “Thor - The Dark World” would be releases…which never happened, and even though Tom had nothing to do with it, a lot of people blamed him and he publicly apologised (even though he was at no fault whatsoever).
  • Another fake impersonated Tom’s hairstylist from the Avengers movie, Yesim Osman and got Tom to follow her and tried to con Tom into meeting up with a “friend” of hers (another fake account)
  • People hacked his facebook account and then shared his private pics all across the internet.
  • Apparently a crowd of fans stalked him at a hotel in Detroit where he was staying and basically blocked up the hotel lobby for hours, disrupting hotel services and other customers, just so they could catch a glimpse at Tom.

And yeah, a lot of people are saying that this kind of harrassment is NOT o.k. and that we should do something about it.

So how about creating a CODE OF CONDUCT for Loki’s Army?

Let’s try to pin down how a TRUE member of Loki’s Army would act…and what kind of behaviour is utterly unacceptable.

Just add any rules that you feel would be helpful when you reblog and “sign” it by “liking” it on tumblr:


Once it hits 10.000, I’ll print it out and send it as a fanmail letter to Tom’s Agent.


This CODE OF CONDUCT is something that is still under construction and participation in shaping and adding to the rules is very much welcome, as is signing it.

Quite a few people have made thoughtful comments on what should be included in the Code and how the Code should be used and I’m incorporating such feedback bit by bit.

If you have any kind of suggestions for the items on the list, anything ranging from interpretations of the rules to ideas about how to improve how things are worded, please feel free to comment!

For the items listed in Loki’s Code there are now two categories:

(Note: It seems I accidentally mis-numbered the Guidelines when I made the switch, going straight from 3 to 5 and omitting no. 4. . I’ve corrected that now, but if you read the comments and find people talking e.g. about no. 6? That’s now no. 5  XD )

A. Non-negotiables

These are the things that distinguish a genuine fan and member of Loki’s Army from stalkers and fanatics. This is people doing stuff that is either close to criminal or even stuff that has already crossed the line.

You see someone breaking these, you know they’re NOT a fan, but a creep and a crazy person.

You see someone breaking these, feel free to call them out on their behaviour, block them and warn others about them.


B. Guidelines

Different people in fandom might vary a bit about how these are to be interpreted.

We’re a global and diverse fandom, with people from all walks of society and all parts of the world. So yes, there are bound to be differences in how certain words and actions are perceived and how they should be evaluated. And that’s fine.

Or it might be something where you have a big area of grey and it’s hard to tell whether a specific action is already “too much” or “still o.k.”.

And while there are some things that are absolute no-goes (see “Non-Negotiables”), there’s a lot of stuff where the right thing to do is to give the other person the benefit of doubt.  

You see someone not following one of these? If they’re up to it (and if you’re up to it), it’s o.k. to engage them in a discussion…but otherwise, “Live and let live” is the motto here.


The "Live and let live" part is really, seriously, incredibly important!

We might have differences of opinion, but we are ONE fandom and we should be respectful no only towards Tom, but also towards each other.

If push comes to shove, we have to stand together. ^_~


That said, here’s the current version of the “Loki Code”:


A. Non-Negotiables

A true member of Loki’s Army


…won’t hack into Tom’s facebook and steal pictures. Or hack any other account of Tom’s really, in order to obtain private infos from Tom.


…..won’t pretend to be someone else, e.g. someone who Tom knows, because they want Tom to tweet them / talk to them.


added by snakecharmed79:

…won’t spread ugly or malicious rumours about Tom.


added by Alexandra Diez:

...won't try to hug, glomp or otherwise invade Tom's personal space without being invited to do so first, if she (or he) happens to meet Tom.

(Note by andartha: There have been other stars that have been tackle-hugged, glomped and almost smothered by crowds of "fans" that wanted to get close-up and personal, so that security had to intervene and rescue the celebrity in question. Tom has been know to hug with fans, but seriously, if he ever has to worry about getting squashed by a brigade of rabid stalker-girls, he probably will stop being so approachable sooner or later.)

(Note by resnictem:
It seems like a fan has put her hands on Tom without his permission once ( sliding her hand down his chest?))

B. Guidelines


I am aware that Tom Hiddleston is a real person, and as such, he deserves to be treated with politeness and respect.


I will respect Tom’s personal space and I won’t re-blog or post any of his private pictures.


added by Brynja_Lokadottir:

I will act mature and civilized when blogging about, writing to, and personally interacting with Tom.

(Note by Andartha: I feel that Loki, the character, should stay fair game for all kind of nonsense though ^_~)


added by ilikezenight.

I also won’t bother other fangirls if they know some Hiddles information that I don’t.

Code of Conduct continued here:


10th-Dec-2012 07:26 pm (UTC)
While I think it's good to behave nice and all, I don't think this code will accomplish anything. The fans that do respect Tom and his privacy will respect it with or without code of conduct, and the people that doesn't care at all won't change their behavior.

I think someone who's idiotic enough to hack Tom's account is not even able to understand why you'd like to have this code of conduct nor can she (I doubt it would be a he...) get the meaning of what's written in this code.

And who would decide what's in this code and what not? Cause if it would be me, No. 6 would be much more stricter, as I can't stand fanfiction with real persons at all - same goes for fanart that tells or implies a story. I know, you said "live an let live" - and I think there's no other way for a fandom anyway. I just want to point out that for some your code won't be strict enought, for others to much, some won't care at all and only a few will agree with the code as it is.
I really appreciate the idea and the intention behind the whole thing - I only think it won't get anything anywhere.

At least I wouldn't bother Tom Hiddleston with it - no code of coduct sending, no special sign for the fandom (I love how he's always so well dressed - a scarf, a button, whatever, it would ruin it sooner or later... and I can already see all the disappointed posts if he's not wearing the sign there and then... and to be honest, I think if the fans just keep a respectful distance aside from official star-fan-meetings it would be the best anyway).

11th-Dec-2012 09:53 am (UTC)
Dear Lothiril,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. ^_^

You are right when you say that this project won't change the way of thinking of people who don't have any respect at all for Tom in the first place.

Such stalkers are selfish and self-centered beyond reasoning at best and thus, any attempt to reason with them would be futile.

However, this project is centered on doing stuff that works and gets results...and it already has:

It has created awareness within fandom of the amount and the kind of harassment Tom gets.

It has given fans a means of expressing what they feel would be a way to interact respectfully with Tom and with each other (e.g. the Code of Conduct is being continously updated).

It has given fans a way to actively do something to support Tom, e.g. by identifying some of the stolen pics, thus giving people the opportunity to take them down (and there are a couple of pics that have been taken down already).

It has spread word about the fake teddyallpress account, and as a result, the numbers of the fakes' followers is continously dropping.

And this Project, in it's current incarnation, with the lj and the facebook account, has been in existence for little more than two weeks.

As for who decides about the Code: That would be each fan for her/himself.

The guidelines (e.g. no.6 which you mentioned) are just that:

A guideline....food for thought.

The ultimate decision rests with the individual.

If a fan finds something within the Code that she/he likes, that's fine.

If a fan doesn't, and would rather set his own standards, then that's fine too.

And if a fan finds something interesting in the Code, but would like to modify that for her/himself (e.g. live by a stricter or a less strict standard), then that's equally fine.

We create our identities by sharing our thoughts and by discussing them with others.

The Code is food for thought and as such a tool to help us find and shape our identity as a fandom.

(Mind, there are other things out there that contribute to shaping our identity as a fandom too: memes, posts that go viral, widely beloved fanart and fanfiction, much read meta-analysis...you get the picture ^_~)

Basically, one thing the Code is about is fandom trying to answer the question: "Who are we?".

As for telling Tom about this:

Well, I believe that people have a right to know when others are talking about them, so yes, at some point I send information about this project to his agent, who will pass it along as appropriate.

Wheter Tom ever looks it up or not will be his decision...but he should at least have the option ^_~

Concerning the idea for some sign between fans and Tom with which Tom can tell a fan who meets him by chance "Sorry, I don't have time to chat / Sorry, I need a private moment right now":

Respect is only worth something if you're able to show it even if it costs you something.

Being respectful if it means you might have to take a pass on something you wanted...that takes backbone. Self-discipline. Integrity. Courage.

And I think that people in fandom have that.

Also, between the original idea for some sort of sign and now, there's a new idea that has come up: hand signs.

That's not something that Tom might just not have with him at the moment....and how incredibly cool would it be to exchange super sekkrit fandom handsigns with Tom (even, if hs signals you "Sorry love, can't right now")?

Seriously, you see Tom somewhere and you don't pounce on the chance to go up to talk to him, because you feel that he might not welcome the attention at the moment, then that's something you can write an entry about / tweet about and tag it with #proudofmyself , because you've done something that, for most people, would have been quite hard to do and you did it out of love and respect for someone else.

With best wishes and kind regards,


Edited at 2012-12-11 11:56 am (UTC)
12th-Dec-2012 12:32 am (UTC)
Thanks for your answer, Anda!

I kinda agree that creating awareness about harassment or something like that is a step in the right direction - but I think, it could go without a code of conduct. But it seems the code is not the center of your project, and I think as food for thoughts it might work.

But still, I wonder what you would write Tom about all this.
"Dear Tom, we now have agreed to behave like every person should behave in the frist place, and we wrote it down!" ... I don't want to sound mean or anything, but really, I can't imagine this right now... I mean, he knows that we are talking about him. We can't just send him mails about everything we discuss. o.0 Of course the agent sorts out, but why would that be more important than most of the other discussions? Seriously, I think it's something that should go without saying. If I do something right, why do I have to point it out, why calling for attention? He'll notice if his fandom acts all nicely... :)

About the sign: I still don't like it. Anythign super secret just between him and some fans... of course they want to feel special and it's great to exchange signs and all, but why should it be secret? Wouldn't it be best if everyone knows it? Even better, if every celebrity could use such a thing. How about the words "Sorry love, can't right know" if fans approach him? Sounds like a sign to me. ;)
And with some common sense everyone should be able to tell if he's bussy...

I think I just have a bad feeling about this because Tom is always so nice to his fans... and I don't wanna see anyone trying to make himself/herself more special to him even though he/she is only one fan among thousend.
I don't want to imply that that's what you are doing here, but this is the reason why I can't stand these kind of things. Well... coming to the end of my post I realize this maybe is just the wrong place for me to be. Guess I'm more suited to be a fan on my own. :D

Best regards & good luck for your project,
12th-Dec-2012 02:32 am (UTC)
Dear Lothiril,

yes, Code of Conduct is just one way of creating awareness, and not everybodies' cup of tea.

But it shouldn't be anyway. As I've said, we're a diverse fandom, and while some of us might enjoy expressing ourselves through such a Code of Conduct, there will be others who find different ways of expressing themselves more appealing to them...and that's a good thing, otherwise fandom would be boring ^_~

As for writing to Tom:

We might think that the fact that we're supportive of him goes without saying, but posts like this one http://skepchick.org/2012/07/speaking-out-against-hate-directed-at-women-dale-mcgowan/ have made me realize how important it can be to speak out to show support.

It might leave him indifferent to hear about this project, but there's also a chance that it might mean something to him, to hear that there's a bunch of people who are willing to speak up for him.

About the sign: so far, anything in that direction is pure speculation anyway and while I enjoy tossing a few ideas around in that regard, the whole point is moot without Tom hearing about it and joining in on it (which is unlikely).

(Btw, secret only in so far as that "Muggles" who aren't in the fandom won't have heard about it (and hell, a lot of those wouldn't even recognize Tom. I know my mom doesn't even know he exists ^_~))

As for being "special"...I'm not, seriously.

I might have gotten this thing started and I might put in my two cents here and there...but all that wouldn't mean a thing if there weren't other people in fandom who were interested in the project....which is as much for the benefit of the fandom itself as it is for Tom's (maybe even more so).

And, as it's been said before, this is a very diverse fandom, so yeah, only a part of the fandom is even going to be interested in doing this, and that's fine.

Diversity is our strenght.

It's the source of our creativity, the one thing that expands the world we live in, and we should cherish it. ^_^

Thank you for your well-wishes and your kind words.

I wish you happy holidays and all the best for the new year,


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